A:  ELF took extraordinary measures to avoid loss of life or injury.  The devices were designed so only the low-yield detonators would fire.  The napalm mix had been allowed to solidify so it could not catch fire.  The fuses were timed to ignite at 2:00 am.  I waited nearby until all the detonators exploded.  If someone would have happened by, I was prepared to warn him or her off, even at the risk of capture.  Later in the day, a communique was dropped at the local newspaper.  ELF listed viable alternatives to the excessive and inappropriate use of pesticides on our food.

Q:  What about the crop dusters?

 A:  They suffered some blistered paint.  It had rained that night.  All the planes were spraying crops just hours after the incident.  But it was a successful media event.  Guerrilla theater, if you will.  The listing of alternatives was important.  You rarely hear of bombers and activists offering alternatives to their grievances.  Usually, they just rant.

Q:  Were there other issues ELF focused on?

A:  There was an action in Oregon.  A pipe bomb was placed at the headquarters of Publishers' Paper Company in Oregon City in August of '77.  (Footnote: The facility operated by Publishers' Paper is now owned by Blue Heron Paper Company).  This was another retaliatory action.  Fairly serious stuff because it involved the transport of explosives across state lines.

Q:  What were the circumstances?

A:  Publishers' Paper owned land in Rose Lodge, Oregon.  They cultivated fast growing trees to provide pulp for their paper mills.  They routinely sprayed herbicides to kill off competing plant species.  Eventually the chemicals found their way into streams.  The spawning habitat for steelhead and salmon were at risk.  In protest, some local folks had chained themselves to trees on Publishers' land.  They were ordered off the property and when they didn't go, a helicopter sprayed them all with the herbicide Tordon.  The pipe bomb was set off at Publishers' corporate offices.  ELF demanded that the company provide life-long health care and medical monitoring for the spray victims.

Q:  Did anyone get hurt when the pipe bomb went off?

Q:  What came after Oregon?

A:  Nothing, really.  I got arrested and went to jail.

Q:  How did you get caught?

A:  Good old-fashioned investigative techniques and advanced technology.  ELF was issuing a lot of communiques.  To avoid getting into a predictable pattern, different copy machines were used each time.  We learned at my trial that the ATF had a complete record showing the time and address where every ELF communique had been printed in both California and Oregon.  But I made the mistake of using a copier where my girlfriend worked.  The ATF traced the communique to that machine and started asking the management questions: was anyone aware of an employee who had expressed anti-pesticide opinions?  They learned that my girlfriend was under a doctor's care and was drawing disability payments due to an exposure to pesticides while working in a cannery.  They kept the two of us under surveillance for a couple of months.  On November 22, 1977 the ATF and Santa Cruz SWAT came through my front door while I was sleeping.  Scared the hell out of me.  In the spirit of civil disobedience, I made a full confession and prepared myself for some serious prison time.

Q:  Were there other arrests?

A:  No, my girlfriend was an unwilling participant in the ELF's actions.  She cooperated with the ATF so she wasn't charged with anything.

Q:  Now that the statute of limitations have expired, can you tell if others were involved with ELF at the time?

A:  I'm not sure there is a statute of limitations for terrorist acts.  I told the authorities that I acted alone.  They accepted that and I think their investigation bore that out.  For the record, I acted alone.  That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Q:  Thank you, Bart Simpson.

A:  No, it's true.  There was no more ELF actions after I was busted.

Q:  Until now.

A:  Right.  I have no knowledge of the latest incarnation of ELF.  I was alarmed when I heard one of the talking heads on the nightly news mention ELF a few months back.  I thought, Oh boy, they'll be charging through my front door again.

Q:  But that hasn't happened, has it?

A:  No.  I think they've ruled me out. (Knock on wood).  My life is an open book.  I have a career that takes up all of my time and I'm constantly traveling.  I'm retired from that stuff.  I enjoy my freedom too much to revisit that nightmare I went through a quarter of a century ago.  My philosophy on militant environmentalism has changed over time.  It's counter-productive to the movement.  After my stint at Lompoc federal prison, I was released on probation.  The judge had given me five years but he later modified the sentence to five years' supervised probation.  After I was out, I contacted one of the Rose Lodge spray victims for the first time.  He told me that the ELF bombing had embarrassed them and alienated them from their former supporters.  Just the simple perception that they may in some way be associated with a terrorist group was all it took to destroy their credibility in their community of peers.  That really bothered me.  I apologized but it was too late.  the harm was done.

Q:  So you no longer advocate militancy?

A:  Not if it manifests itself in violence.  Civil disobedience can be militant in practice or perception.  But violence is NEVER civil.  Thoreau and Gandhi landed in jail but they never could have accomplished their goals had they resorted to violence.  They maintained the high moral ground and inspired support.  They showed they were better than their adversaries.

Q:  Do you consider your past actions to be a failure?

A:  Yes.  Both morally and strategically.  After my arrest, I opted for another approach.  I founded a not-for-profit organization to assist commercial growers to develop strategies for cutting back on their use of pesticides.  This was a program developed, in part, by Dr. Van Den Bosch.  I was fortunate to gain his support before he died.  The strategy is called Integrated Pest Management or IPM.  It was a fairly new concept in the late 70's.  It's widely practiced these days.

Q:  Are you still active in the IPM field?

A:  No.  I recruited a board of directors with college degrees in entomology and plant pathology.  I wrote the initial seed-funding proposal and received a generous grant from the David and Lucile Packard Foundation.  Then I reluctantly stepped down.  The board of directors felt my pending trial could be problematic.  And, of course, I had no professional credentials.  Basically I was a confessed bomber awaiting trial.  Not the greatest public relations asset if you're trying to influence commercial growers.  The academicians took over the corporate helm but they failed to secure additional funding and the enterprise faded away.  The good news is that similar businesses have flourished.  So I'm reassured that my instincts were sound.  Perhaps we were ahead of our time.  With hindsight, I see that IPM has accomplished more than those seven firebombs ever did.

Q:  What would you like to say to the ELF today?

A: If I transport myself back to when I was Underground, I don't think I would Have listened to an old fart like me.  Most likely a lot of the people who make up today's ELF weren't even born when ELF was founded.  So I'm not too optimistic that the current cadre will listen.  But here's my request: Stop the violence.  It's only a matter of time before someone gets injured or killed.  Arson can get out of hand very quickly.  Who would want an innocent firefighter to get killed doing his or her job?  I'm so thankful no one was hurt during my activities.  I couldn't live with myself had that happened.